Wednesday, October 5, 2016

Harvest: Grain: Pull Combines

See also Holt Combines.

There were two generations of pull combines. The old ones were quite wide and intended to be used on the huge wheat fields in the plains. The newer ones came out in the 1950s for use on family farms, and they could be pulled by a smaller tractors. The ubiquitous adaptation of the PTO on tractors is one development that made the small farmer pull combines an economical solution to grain harvest. Note that in the 1950s, combines did not support corn harvest. That was still done with a picker and possibly a sheller attached to the rear of the picker.  I'll start with the family farm combines and then do the huge wheat field combines.

I've been having trouble finding a picture of the Massey-Harris combine my grandfather used for years to harvest wheat, oats, and barely. Most of the Massey-Harris pictures are of self-propelled models because they pioneered the design that has the header in front of the separator in the 1940s. But here is at least the carcass of the pull-type combine he used. (I don't know where the big I-beam on top came from. That is not part of the combine.) I normally saw it from the other side where the crop had already been cut. Somewhere I saw the date 1950, but I can't find that date again. Note that the header was on the right side of the tractor. During this era, combines did not have the option of a corn head. Corn was either chopped for silage or picked. As grain dryers were developed, a sheller was added to the picker. Later grain dryers and self-propelled combines became ubiquitous enough to warrant figuring out how to change between a grain and a row-crop header.

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Rob Henninger posted
Rob Henninger posted
YellowSwirl
Massey Harris clipper trailed combine 1950

Screenshot of "my grandfather's combine" in action

Jerry Pearson posted
mid 1950's; Dad combining with Massy-Harris clipper combine and 1952 Oliver 88 row crop tractor😀

Sam Bezner posted Massey-Ferguson 405
Sam Bezner posted:
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Sam commented on his posting


Since this is a Massey-Harris tractor, I'm assume the combine is also.
George Serven posted
Sam Bezner shared


Allis-Chalmers


I did not realize that some manufactures put the header on the left side of the tractor until I started collecting these pictures.

Screenshot from video
[Allis-Chalmers All-Crop 66.]
David Mcfadden posted
My All-crop 60 I saved from a barn that was going to be torn down.
Clinton Worron posted 10 photos of his 9147 Allis-Chalmer All-Crop 60.

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In comment, they refer to this as the spreader
Another comment provides a view that made it obvious that the spreader turns to spread the straw across the field.

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[This must be the canvas with bars that raised the grain to the cylinder.]
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The above ten photos is of his operational All-Crop 60. He has a couple more in his "toy box."
Clinton Worron posted
[These illustrate that the canvas that carries the grain up to the cylinder is one of the first things that fails.]
Gary Livengood posted 10 photos of his Model 60.

Another comment on the first photo in the posting. provides a photo of a refinished All-Crop.
Machinery Pete posted
Pic of the Day....JD 520 pulling Allis Chalmers 72 All Crop.
Thanks to Facebook follower Thomas J. for the great pic!
Screenshot from a video posted by Jim Klink
All Crop 60, D17 that Dad bought new, being driven by my son doing wheat in Wisconsin in 2013.
Mark Sullivan I remember my dad had one of them lol the canvas was about half rotten on it that takes it up to the cylinder big old gimson weed would poke a big a hole in it he would have to stop and patch it finally bought a new canvas.Robert Ross Make me long for the days when you could make a living on 160 acres or less. Today you got to work 10 times that!Raul Pernhard i remember cutting soybeans, setting the cycle bar height , then never actually viewing it again till you would come to the end of the row, a dust cloud would engulf me moving at the same rate as my ground speed.Roger Cordes Dad and his brother had an ALL-CROP , pulled with a Farmall H cut some wheat and lots and lots of oats as we milked and fed calves we bought.
[I'm surprised an H could handle a combine. I would have expected an M would have been used.]
Jim Palmer Jr That is a post war machine. Notice all of the aluminum? They were short of materials due to the end of WWII but somehow they got a pile of aluminum so the used that.Jim Klink Yup, most all of the sheet metal on the rear of the combine around the separator is aluminum. Think it is a 1946 by serial number, will double check tomorrow.


Jason H Totsch posted three videos of an Allis Chalmers All-Crop 72 in action.

A-C did have a "straight-through" design. Ross Potocnik posted three photos of a Model 40 that he bought. I had a hard time figuring out the purpose of the chain that is driven by a sprocket on the right wheel until I noticed that there is no PTO shaft!.

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This Model 66 promotional video is where I heard that at one time All Crop had over half of the combines that were in the field. Has a two-row corn header option.

A video of a Model 72 being used in 2016 for Red Clover Seed because it evidently does a better job of cleaning the seed than new equipment!

A-C: All-Crop 72 Combine, 1963 seen at the 2016 Will County Threshermen's Show

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Richard Langdon posted four pictures with the comment: "Allis Chalmers Allcrop 66 Header up for sale locally. Used for clover."

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Richard Langdon posted four pictures with the comment: "Here's a Charming Allis up for sale in Nelson."

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Kevin Anderson posted a couple of pictures:
Jerry Carter Big bin 66 which are later also has scoreclean on it.

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John Deere

The first self-propelled John Deere combine was the model 55 introduced in 1947. The model 95 was introduced in 1958. Both the 55 and 95 were produced through 1969. The "new generation" or "00" series combines were introduced in 1970. These were the 3300, 4400, 6600 and 7700. Later the "20" series was introduced (such as 6620, 7720, etc.) but I don't have the dates for them. Someone else may fill in the gaps. I hope this helps, though. I own a 1973 mdel 6600 John Deere combine. It is a good machine.
The John Deere model 40 combine was produced from 1960 through 1966. My sourcebooks also say that the 105 was produced from 1961 to 1969. So the 40, 55, 95 and 105 were all produced in the 1960s before the "new generation" or "00" series came out in the 1970s.
A good book is "Combines and Harvesters" by Jeff Creighton. Another good book is "The Grain Harvesters" by Graeme R. Quick. Either or both may be available at internet booksellers, bookstores or libraries. I found the Creighton book on amazon.com and the Quick book in my local library. I'm out in the deserted Oklahoma Panhandle, so it is just a little more challenging to get resources here. The computer age has equalized things somewhat, however.
Good luck in your study of combines. They are very interesting machines to study and even more fun to use!
[YesterdaysTractors]
Big booklet on modern combines.

Bob Parkin posted
JD #9 Combine

Combines Harvesters Threshers posted
John Deere 12A Combine, pull type. Country of origin... U.S.A.
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This is one of a collection of 9 advertisements for the 12A. I confirmed with an Incognito Window that everyone should be able to follow the "posted" link.]
Larry Knierim posted
Fall 1943
[12A John Deere pulled by an A.]
Chris Fink posted two photos with the comment: "Put the new tires on the 12a today. Now on to the rest of the combine."

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Dan Zimmerman commented on the above posting.
[That is evidently his AR tractor.]

For the Love of Tractors posted
It'd be a long day pulling into a two hundred acre field with this outfit.
John Van Haecke With that outfit, you would do, at best, two acres an hour, maybe three.
[Note the combine is shifted over to transport mode.]
PetCare
John Deere Model 630 Tractor pulling a No 30 Deere Combine
Freddy Schewe posted two photos with the comment: "My john deere 30 combine on a 730 diesel"

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Lewie Hoskinson posted, #12A
The comments include a video of it running.
Note that two John Deere tractors are pulling it and that it is doing less than half of its swath. The two tractors are needed because these were normally pulled by tracked Holt tractors.

Lewie Hoskinson posted
Getting ready for another run. Making some changes to the reel this year.
Video of it running last year
Dennis DeBruler I like watching old combines run because they didn't have any safety shielding back then and you can see the complex of pulleys and belts needed to drive all of the moving parts. When I noticed there was no PTO shaft, I took a closer look to find the engine. It is setting in front of the grain bin.
Lewie Hoskinson Starts with a hand crank ! ''Tis Fun !
Screenshot from a 1942 John Deere advertisement video
Shawn Idema commented on a posting: "Saved this one from the scrap man last week."

Jacob Webster posted six pictures with the comment: "This is my project a John Deere #17 combine. Got the header off and finally home. This combine ought to be a learning experience, since it hasn't cut wheat since the 60's."
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Screenshot from video by Bill McClain
A video I took combining oats with my John Deere #30 combine. Lots of green going through.

Bill McClain We had rainy weather that delayed harvest, gave the grass time to grow as the oats crinkled down.Denis Lassaline looks like an organic crop of oats i'd say....way to go.

[By "organic," I think he means he must not have used the usual herbicides that oat farmers would use to keep the grass out. But as long as the grass does not have seed, it is just more work for the combine to pass it through. It should not harm what is harvested.]
James Hill posted
Another picture from our Oakley tractor show.
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Adam C. Fruit Nice 530

Two of the photos posted by Adam Burtnett are pulled. I've never seen a pull-type with such a large header. The resolution of the pictures are not good enough to get a model number.
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Combines Harvesters Threshers added a new photo
Combines Harvesters Threshers posted
Video of John Deere 7721 Titan 2

Oliver

Floyd County Museum posted
From the Oliver archives at the Floyd County Museum-An Oliver 88 tractor in the field with an Oliver combine. 1948-1954.
[I wonder what the guy on the combine with the wheel is adjusting. The combine has its own engine. You can see the radiator behind the head of the tractor driver.]
Charles Dave Mcmillian posted four pictures of an Oliver 18.

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McCormick or International Harvester

Bruce White posted
What is this?
Hugh Macague commented on the above posting
Thats a McCormick Deering 64. Not many in Aus!!
Hugh Macague commented on the above posting



CHT posted
IHC 914 pull type combineNoah Fliginger Squirrels cage on the tractor
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I noticed the special air cleaner to handle the dust on the front of the tractor. But I didn't know it was called a Squirrels cage. The crop is cut to dry because grain dryers are not yet economical? ]
James Rickert commented on a posting: "Model 76 McCormick Farmall"
James Rickert posted 13 photos with the comment: "Just got my barn find home. Running video soon. The sieves, augers and elevators look great.!! All original paint and decals."

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A video of the 76 running (source)

Farmer Justin Bohle posted
Roger Cordes i ahve always wanted an 82
Farmer Justin Bohle They are a very nice running machine, only reason I sold it was because I lost my storage and it was too nice to let sit outside, and I'd rather see someone else enjoy it than have it rust away.

Big pull combines used in the "bread basket" Great Planes states (Texas to North Dakota).

These first generation "harvesters" where powered by their wheels and pulled by horses or mules. I now believe they were developed before stationary separators were developed because separators needed the development of steam powered tractors.

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Horse-Drawn Combine
Mark Potter's posting provides more information
Video of the draft mules pulling the 1923 Harris wooden combine .... so cool to watch
Holt pioneered the pull combine in 1886. John Deere developed their own designs in the 1920s. Holt had merged with Best to form the Caterpillar company. [TheJohnDeereLegacy] Deere acquires the #36 hillside combine from Cat in 1935. [AGweb]

John Deere Model R (First Diesel)
Screenshot from video
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Screenshot from Combines Harvesters Threshers posting
Would love to visit this museum , John Deere No 36B 

Facebook postings of multiple brands

Chris Fink posted three pictures with the comment: "These are from July 2014, AC 72, Massey 50 clipper & JD 7721"

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Jason Williams posted three pictures with the comment: "Cutting oats on our SWPA farm this past summer. The tractor is an 806 diesel and the combine is an 82." I decided it is IH equipment.

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Three of the photos posted by Bryan Bisher were pull combines. One in particular needs a lot of Tender Loving Care.

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Pete Adsit posted
Anyone still use a pull type combine?
[Because of the question, there are several pictures and a video of pull combines in the comments.]
Darall Snyder posted
555 Versatile and the 2000VII are finished with 2016 harvest FINALLY.
Darall Snyder Last year's wheat
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Rob Henninger posted
Dennis DeBruler For those that are trying to learn about old combines, what is the make and model? This is the first time I have seen an option to bag the grain on such a "modern" combine.
Jose Stetson Looks like Massey Harris Clipper44 On dads that was the weed seed screenings from the elevator going to the grain bin. That way foreign matter,weed seeds,etc doesn’t go in to the grain bin or on the ground.
Dennis DeBruler Thanks for the clarification. That makes a lot more sense.
Rob Henninger posted
[Evidently Rob doesn't know that you can include multiple photos in the same posting.]



Video that Jesse Pritchard posted along with photos of a corn picker, two self-propelled JDs (one of which is a 40) and a pull JD.

Video that Carroll Slade posted of his John Deere 42. 
Carroll Slade I have its two row corn head with it too!!

Five videos of combines in action (shared)


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